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computer... Please don't assume Lisp is only useful for Animation and Graphics, AI, Bioinformatics, B2B and E-Commerce, Data Mining, EDA/Semiconductor applications, Expert Systems, Finance, Intelligent Agents, Knowledge Management, Mechanical CAD, Modeling and Simulation, Natural Language, Optimization, Research, Risk Analysis, Scheduling, Telecom, and Web Authoring just because these are the only things they happened to list. -- Kent M. Pitman Unix makes easy tasks hard and hard tasks possible. Windows makes easy tasks easy and hard tasks $29.95. -- /. #5817924 istartedi Toddlers might sometimes wonder why people need to learn so many words and learn to speak in complicated phrases, when it seems that all you really need to do is point and cry to get what you want. Then we grow up. -- /. #5817410 wotevah, in reference to complaint about shell scripting When you design a macro, you're designing a new programming language [...] but there are people that I don't want to design a new programming language, that I'm going to have to edit the program for. -- Todd Proebsting (LL2 2002) It seems that the folks who designed the C++ template system ... reinvented the wheel. The C++ lug nuts have been praised, but the squarish shape of the C++ wheel is often criticized. -- William Clinger (comp.lang.scheme) This is reminiscent of the old platonic girl friend problem. You know, when you're friends with a girl you really like and they claim to need to find a guy that's just like you but not you. In this case you want an OS that's just like Windows but not Windows. Based on the analogy I*ve provided the best I can suggest is that you give up -- #541830 /. APL is a flawless diamond, perfect, symmetrical, an irreducible whole. But add anything to it, and it's ruined. LISP is a bucket of mud; add anything to it, and it's still a bucket of mud. Shooting yourself in the foot: APL -- You hear a gunshot, and there's a hole in your foot, but you don't remember enough linear algebra to understand what happened. Shooting yourself in the foot: Smalltalk -- You spend so much time playing with the graphics and windowing system that your boss shoots you in the foot, takes away your workstation, and makes you develop in COBOL on a character terminal. "Scheme is simply redundant. It should be a subset of ANSI Common Lisp." ... this is a little like saying "Relational calculus is simply redundant. It should be a subset of SQL-92." -- Anton van Straaten (comp.lang.scheme) Regardless of what you might find wrong with the code, there is one thing that is right. It works. Its value is that it works and has worked. Find a way to respect that value before you do anything. -- k5 epepke "Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp." -- Greenspun's Tenth Rule If my game sinks or swims according to its AI, C is a suboptimal choice. If my game sinks or swims because it calls a foreign API, the year is 1980. -- eLuddite k5 Many people prefer C for the same reason many people prefer solving crossword puzzles instead of writing novels. That is to say, C is popular because (re)solving pointless puzzles is stereotypical geek behavior. -- eLuddite k5 The more I keep dealing with computers, the more it resembles a bad redneck romance: constantly flipping between "I love you so much!" and "Baby, why you gotta make me hit you?" -- Armaphine k5 Many other languages are simpler to learn in part because they limit one's choice. -- GoingWare k5 Having to play Mr. Compiler is not a useful "choice". Nowadays we use computers to do the tedious grunt work so that we dont have to. Apparently, everyone except C/C++ programmers understands the value of computers. It's funny because it's true. -- eLuddite k5 There's nothing wrong with the IT industry that shooting every person who works in HR wouldn't fix overnight. -- k5 katie Seen in help-wanted ad: "You must have 5 years' experience with .NET" -- k5 quartz (December 2000) For those of you who don't know what Trellix is...*shudder* I cannot even explain it. It's kind of like FrontPage for people with Down's. -- k5 communista "Sure, you're not tracking down seg faults in your pointerless language, but that doesn't mean it works! You're just tracking down something else instead!" "You know what I'm tracking down instead of seg faults? A cold beer! That's what I'm tracking down, Chester! And I'm bangin' Claudia Schiffer! Functional programming rules!" -- k5 jacob The Unix design philosophy in 5 words: Maximize opportunities for serendipitous parsimony. "Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next. Usability is not everything. If usability engineers designed a nightclub, it would be clean, quiet, brightly lit, with lots of places to sit down, plenty of bartenders, menus written in 18-point sans-serif, and easy-to-find bathrooms. But nobody would be there. They would all be down the street at Coyote Ugly pouring beer on each other. -- Joel Spolsky You don't go to a nightclub to get information, you go to a library. Which fits the description exactly. -- /. #112953 "It's not the OS it's the user that sucks. If it's user friendly, you get stupider people." -- Call Linus, I think we have a new slogan. Windows is based on threads, while UNIX is based on pipes. Don't forget: MacOS is based on yarn. AmigaOS is based on wires. DOS is based on twisty-ties. Mozilla -- reinventing the wheel, one spoke at a time. -- /. #102596 "I just want you to know that I can write slicker and tighter code than John [Carmack]." -- Bill Gates The utility of an operating system is more proportional to the number of connections possible between its components than it is to the number of those components. -- Hans Reiser "C is the language that believes that the programmer knows what he wants and deserves to get it, good and hard." -- H.L. Menken, paraphrased Have you let Emacs into your heart? Are you praising It today, brother? Are you typing in Its holy name? Has anyone shared this editor with you? I know that this editor is the one true editor. -- e2 LagMan My new years resolution is 1024x768 -- /. #544860 This year, I resolve to 127.0.0.1. -- /. #253182 I do however think that vi is a drug, did you ever catch yourself laughing while using vi? -- /. #3096 Suggested Microsoft slogan -- "Windows: It Does That Sometimes" "How many six year olds does it take to design software?" -- Microsoft advertisement "One thing you don't want to do is publically flame someone who still has your root passwords." -- Kurt Gray, andover.net [optimist@localhost]$ head TODO [optimist@localhost]$ "The only 'intuitive' interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned." -- Bruce Ediger, in comp.os.linux.misc "Programming is like sex: one mistake and you have to support it for the rest of your life." -- Michael Sinz You're in a twisty maze of standards, all different. "Someone on IRC was very sad about the uptime of his machine wrapping from 497 days to 0." -- linux-kernel "If a group of N persons implements a COBOL compiler, there will be N-1 passes. Someone in the group has to be the manager." -- T. Cheatham "Pascal is a language for children wanting to be naughty." -- Dr. Kasi Ananthanarayanan "Well, let's just say, if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux." -- Bruce Perens "C++ is more of a rube-goldberg type thing full of high-voltages, large chain-driven gears, sharp edges, exploding widgets, and spots to get your fingers crushed. And because of it's complexity many (if not most) of it's users don't know how it works, and can't tell ahead of time what's going to cause them to lose an arm." -- Grant Edwards "The scarcest resource is development time. No way to do a baby in one month using 9 women." -- /. #144654 "... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs." -- Robert Firth "... Developers seize on the first thing they like and congeal and harden around it, forever after ignoring anything else that comes along. The popularity of programming languages and other technologies has next to nothing to do with technical considerations and everything to do with the same instinct that makes 13-year-old girls decide they all like Britney Spears simultaneously." -- /. Angst Badger 8/20/00 It appears that /dev/null is a conforming XSL processor. "Why should we limit computers to the lies people tell them through keyboards?" -- Bill Gospar, 1965, MIT Wasn't it the Heisenberg Principal that stated whenever a person says "Emacs", another person somewhere is saying "vi" at the exact same time? "We all know Linux is great... it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." -- Linus Torvalds on the Amsterdam Linux Symposium I think it's a new feature. Don't tell anyone it was an accident. :-) -- Larry Wall on s/foo/bar/eieio M-x thermo-nuclear-warfare A picture is worth 500 DWORDS. vi vi vi, the text editor of the beast. Emacs is a wonderful operating environment, but it lacks a good text editor. That's why I use vi. Emacs is the OS, linux is the device driver. "Parse error: expect unexpected" -- Awk Unix: Where /sbin/init is still Job 1 Inscription found at Pompeii: Nero MCCCXXXVII VkrIpVII kIddXIII est. "...smart people are always heroic. Compare the works of Alan Turing to the works of Jesus. Who is more heroic? Why, Alan Turing, of course, because Jesus couldn't come up with a Universal Turing Machine (the basis for modern computer science) without some kind of Divine Intervention, which is cheating. Turing was also gay, but that only annoys the trolls, and there are little pieces of the 'Secret Gospel of Jesus' which imply strongly that Jesus may also have been gay." -- /. Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had. "Nuclear war can ruin your whole compile." -- Karl Lehenbauer Disclaimer: My employer doesn't even agree with me about C indentation style. "Reboot macht Frei." mysql> DELETE FROM world.human_race WHERE iq < 100; Query OK, 3.45 billion rows affected (0.01 sec) The requirements said "Windows 98 or better", so I installed Linux. "We are going to do fewer things very well." -- Microsoft president Steve Ballmer, USA Today, 3 September 1999 A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. In other news ... Microsoft reports that Oceania has /always/ been at war with Eurasia. -- /. #22422 "Nothing says backwards-compatible-lovin like working on a file with a creation date over a decade ago." -- /. AC Microsoft ex-employee MCSE: Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert. Working with Unix is like wrestling with a worthy opponent. Working with Windows is like attacking a small whiney child who's carrying a .38. -- k5 FyreFiend Yeah, well... I'm entirely too lazy to wrestle. So instead, I keep shooting the small child in the head and replacing him with another identical small child. I mean, fuck wrestling. Smack it around and make it your bitch. -- k5 Armaphine Does anyone think the phrase "Windows ME" strikingly resembles the phrase "Rape Me"? Windows 95 installer: "Everything you do will be more fun!" Seen on a California license plate on a VW Beetle: "FEATURE" Dude, what would the point of a trade show be if you were going to see stuff that is available? Thats like going to a strip club where all the dancers are ex-girlfriends. Currently many people are finding it less costly in the long run to create new operating systems instead of using those commercially available. That alone tells you we have had a near complete failure of the laws on software IP. It is long past due for a change. -- /. #91866 Once you start down the path of irregular syntax, lexing will forever dominate your language. Consume you it will. -- David Steuber <87zmqfypbs.fsf@david-steuber.com> With computers, you can't get something for nothing, unless you were getting nothing for something before. -- Bill Mark, UT Professor Alice: "I'll need to know your requirements before I start to design the software. First of all, what are you trying to accomplish?" User: "I am trying to make you design my software" Alica: "I mean what are you trying to accomplish with the software?" User: "I won't know what I can accomplish until you tell me what the software can do" Alice: "Try to get this concept through your thick skull: the software can do whatever I design it to do" (pause) User: "Can you design it to tell you my requirements?" -- Dilbert |
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